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240V->120V transformer heats up device?
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interuser
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 240V->120V transformer heats up device?
Hi I live in Europe and have a network router that operates powered by a power supply (transformer of 240VAC->5VDC)
I bought the exact same router from US and plugged its power supply (transformer of 120VAC->5VDC) on a 240VAC->120VAC transformer.
I notice that the US transformer heats up more than the european one. It is more hot that the 240VAC->120VAC transformer.
Can anyone explain as to why this is happening? Does it have anything to do with the frequency in the US being 60HZ as opposed to here being 50HZ?
Note that the US power supply is attached onto the transformer , and so some of the heat is transferred from the transformer to the power supply.
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| 17 Mar 2008, 17:42 |
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John
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 Re: 240V->120V transformer heats up device?
On Sun, 16 Mar 2008 12:50:27 -0700 (PDT), interuser <interuser@hotmail.com> wrote:
>Hi >I live in Europe and have a network router that operates powered by a >power supply (transformer of 240VAC->5VDC) > >I bought the exact same router from US and plugged its power supply >(transformer of 120VAC->5VDC) on a 240VAC->120VAC transformer. > >I notice that the US transformer heats up more than the european one. >It is more hot that the 240VAC->120VAC transformer. > >Can anyone explain as to why this is happening? >Does it have anything to do with the frequency in the US being 60HZ as >opposed to here being 50HZ? > >Note that the US power supply is attached onto the transformer , and >so some of the heat is transferred from the transformer to the power >supply.
50 Hz supply will push cheap 60 Hz transformers somewhat into saturation, and increase losses.
John
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| 17 Mar 2008, 17:42 |
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Tom
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 Re: 240V->120V transformer heats up device?
"interuser" <interuser@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:fc1ec7ef-c0bd-45e0-bd0e-2974c2c0b844@c19g2000prf.googlegroups.com... > Hi > I live in Europe and have a network router that operates powered by a > power supply (transformer of 240VAC->5VDC) > > I bought the exact same router from US and plugged its power supply > (transformer of 120VAC->5VDC) on a 240VAC->120VAC transformer. > > I notice that the US transformer heats up more than the european one. > It is more hot that the 240VAC->120VAC transformer. > > Can anyone explain as to why this is happening? > Does it have anything to do with the frequency in the US being 60HZ as > opposed to here being 50HZ? > > Note that the US power supply is attached onto the transformer , and > so some of the heat is transferred from the transformer to the power > supply.
Just buy the euro power supply for that router.
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| 17 Mar 2008, 17:43 |
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Phil
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 Re: 240V->120V transformer heats up device?
"interuser"
> Hi > I live in Europe and have a network router that operates powered by a > power supply (transformer of 240VAC->5VDC) > > I bought the exact same router from US and plugged its power supply > (transformer of 120VAC->5VDC) on a 240VAC->120VAC transformer. > > I notice that the US transformer heats up more than the european one. > It is more hot that the 240VAC->120VAC transformer. > > Can anyone explain as to why this is happening? > Does it have anything to do with the frequency in the US being 60HZ as > opposed to here being 50HZ? >
** It is solely due to that fact.
120 volt primary transformers made for the US domestic market are simply not designed to operate at 50 Hz. Making them do so by using a 230/120 step-down transformer causes them to run hotter - sometimes MUCH hotter and this can lead to failure of the transformer's insulation or the activation of an internal thermal fuse.
Other problems include buzzing or humming noises emanating form the transformer or nearby metal panels.
Toroidal transformers intended for 120 volt@ 60 Hz are most likely to be in serious overload if ever operated at 50 Hz - even with no load applied to the secondary.
....... Phil
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