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How do I hook up my potentiometer?
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kayvee
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 How do I hook up my potentiometer?
I have a 500k ohm POT and I will be using it to vary the voltage of a circuit I am making. It is basically a motor which I want to be able to change the voltage drop across it. I will be connecting it in series with the motor. This POT I have has 3 lead coming off of it. I am under the impression that if I connect the middle lead and one of the outer leads it will vary the current of the circuit, and if I connect all 3 lead in a curtain fashion it will vary the voltage.
Now my question is how do I connect the 3 leads?
I have tried reading explanations, I would appreciate a straight forward good old fashioned diagram.
[POT} | | | ? ? ?
*---[DC]----?---------[MOTOR]---* | | | | *-------------------------------*
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| 17 Mar 2008, 16:15 |
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John
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 Re: How do I hook up my potentiometer?
kayvee wrote: > I have a 500k ohm POT and I will be using it to vary the voltage of a > circuit I am making. It is basically a motor which I want to be able > to change the voltage drop across it. I will be connecting it in > series with the motor. This POT I have has 3 lead coming off of it. I > am under the impression that if I connect the middle lead and one of > the outer leads it will vary the current of the circuit, and if I > connect all 3 lead in a curtain fashion it will vary the voltage. > > Now my question is how do I connect the 3 leads? > > I have tried reading explanations, I would appreciate a straight > forward good old fashioned diagram. > > [POT} > | | | > ? ? ? > > *---[DC]----?---------[MOTOR]---* > | | > | | > *-------------------------------*
Inside the pot is a resistor with a connection to each end (the outer terminals) and a sliding contact (the center terminal>
* ,--/\/\/\/\--, * | ^ | * | | | * 0 0 0
If you want to insert a variable resistor in series with the motor, use one end terminal and the center terminal to complete the motor circuit.
* [POT} * | | | * | | * *---[DC]---* *--------[MOTOR]---* * | | * | | * *-------------------------------*
Unfortunately, a 500k ohm pot has so much resistance that the motor will stop the moment you slide in even the tiniest part of the rotation, and may burn a hole in the resistive element at the end. You might try something like a 1k pot or a 100 ohm pot. If you have some fixed resistors you can try a few of them and get an idea what resistance is close to doing what you want.
-- Regards,
John Popelish
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| 17 Mar 2008, 16:16 |
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kielvereecken
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 Re: How do I hook up my potentiometer?
On Feb 18, 12:38 am, John Popelish <jpopel...@rica.net> wrote: > kayvee wrote: > > I have a 500k ohm POT and I will be using it to vary the voltage of a > > circuit I am making. It is basically a motor which I want to be able > > to change the voltage drop across it. I will be connecting it in > > series with the motor. This POT I have has 3 lead coming off of it. I > > am under the impression that if I connect the middle lead and one of > > the outer leads it will vary the current of the circuit, and if I > > connect all 3 lead in a curtain fashion it will vary the voltage. > > > Now my question is how do I connect the 3 leads? > > > I have tried reading explanations, I would appreciate a straight > > forward good old fashioned diagram. > > > [POT} > > | | | > > ? ? ? > > > *---[DC]----?---------[MOTOR]---* > > | | > > | | > > *-------------------------------* > > Inside the pot is a resistor with a connection to each end > (the outer terminals) and a sliding contact (the center > terminal> > > * ,--/\/\/\/\--, > * | ^ | > * | | | > * 0 0 0 > > If you want to insert a variable resistor in series with the > motor, use one end terminal and the center terminal to > complete the motor circuit. > > * [POT} > * | | | > * | | > * *---[DC]---* *--------[MOTOR]---* > * | | > * | | > * *-------------------------------* > > Unfortunately, a 500k ohm pot has so much resistance that > the motor will stop the moment you slide in even the tiniest > part of the rotation, and may burn a hole in the resistive > element at the end. You might try something like a 1k pot > or a 100 ohm pot. If you have some fixed resistors you can > try a few of them and get an idea what resistance is close > to doing what you want. > > -- > Regards, > > John Popelish
Thanks, John. I'll pick myself up a 1k ohm or a 100 ohm pot today and give it a try!
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| 17 Mar 2008, 16:16 |
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ehsjr
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 Re: How do I hook up my potentiometer?
kayvee wrote: > I have a 500k ohm POT and I will be using it to vary the voltage of a > circuit I am making. It is basically a motor which I want to be able > to change the voltage drop across it. I will be connecting it in > series with the motor. This POT I have has 3 lead coming off of it. I > am under the impression that if I connect the middle lead and one of > the outer leads it will vary the current of the circuit, and if I > connect all 3 lead in a curtain fashion it will vary the voltage. > > Now my question is how do I connect the 3 leads? > > I have tried reading explanations, I would appreciate a straight > forward good old fashioned diagram. > > [POT} > | | | > ? ? ? > > *---[DC]----?---------[MOTOR]---* > | | > | | > *-------------------------------*
Connecting a pot directly to a motor is not usually advisable. As a general rule, assume that if you do it, you will burn out the pot. If the motor draws less current than the pot can handle, that's ok, but you need to know that up front.
If you use a pot to drive a transistor, you can control a lot more current:
V+ ---+----[Motor]----+ | | P /c O<---[220R]---| NPN Power xsistor T \e | | Gnd ---+---------------+
The NPN transistor needs to be able to handle the power and current that the motor needs.
Ed
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| 17 Mar 2008, 16:16 |
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John
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 Re: How do I hook up my potentiometer?
On Mon, 18 Feb 2008 20:24:12 GMT, ehsjr <ehsjr@bellatlantic.net> wrote: >kayvee wrote: >> I have a 500k ohm POT and I will be using it to vary the voltage of a >> circuit I am making. It is basically a motor which I want to be able >> to change the voltage drop across it. I will be connecting it in >> series with the motor. This POT I have has 3 lead coming off of it. I >> am under the impression that if I connect the middle lead and one of >> the outer leads it will vary the current of the circuit, and if I >> connect all 3 lead in a curtain fashion it will vary the voltage. >> >> Now my question is how do I connect the 3 leads? >> >> I have tried reading explanations, I would appreciate a straight >> forward good old fashioned diagram. >> >> [POT} >> | | | >> ? ? ? >> >> *---[DC]----?---------[MOTOR]---* >> | | >> | | >> *-------------------------------* > >Connecting a pot directly to a motor is not usually >advisable. As a general rule, assume that if you do >it, you will burn out the pot. If the motor draws >less current than the pot can handle, that's ok, but >you need to know that up front. > >If you use a pot to drive a transistor, you can >control a lot more current: > > V+ ---+----[Motor]----+ > | | > P /c > O<---[220R]---| NPN Power xsistor > T \e > | | > Gnd ---+---------------+ > > >The NPN transistor needs to be able to handle the >power and current that the motor needs. --- V+ ---+---------------+ | | P /c O<------------| NPN Power xsistor T \e | | Gnd --+---[Motor]-----+ Better, yes?  -- JF
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kayvee
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 Re: How do I hook up my potentiometer?
On Feb 18, 6:22 pm, John Fields <jfie...@austininstruments.com> wrote: > On Mon, 18 Feb 2008 20:24:12 GMT, ehsjr <eh...@bellatlantic.net> > wrote: > > > > >kayvee wrote: > >> I have a 500k ohm POT and I will be using it to vary the voltage of a > >> circuit I am making. It is basically a motor which I want to be able > >> to change the voltage drop across it. I will be connecting it in > >> series with the motor. This POT I have has 3 lead coming off of it. I > >> am under the impression that if I connect the middle lead and one of > >> the outer leads it will vary the current of the circuit, and if I > >> connect all 3 lead in a curtain fashion it will vary the voltage. > > >> Now my question is how do I connect the 3 leads? > > >> I have tried reading explanations, I would appreciate a straight > >> forward good old fashioned diagram. > > >> [POT} > >> | | | > >> ? ? ? > > >> *---[DC]----?---------[MOTOR]---* > >> | | > >> | | > >> *-------------------------------* > > >Connecting a pot directly to a motor is not usually > >advisable. As a general rule, assume that if you do > >it, you will burn out the pot. If the motor draws > >less current than the pot can handle, that's ok, but > >you need to know that up front. > > >If you use a pot to drive a transistor, you can > >control a lot more current: > > > V+ ---+----[Motor]----+ > > | | > > P /c > > O<---[220R]---| NPN Power xsistor > > T \e > > | | > > Gnd ---+---------------+ > > >The NPN transistor needs to be able to handle the > >power and current that the motor needs. > > --- > > V+ ---+---------------+ > | | > P /c > O<------------| NPN Power xsistor > T \e > | | > Gnd --+---[Motor]-----+ > > Better, yes?  > > -- > JF Oh, that seems pretty clear. Thanks for the explanation. I'll put an NPN and see what happens.
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Michael
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 Re: How do I hook up my potentiometer?
John Fields wrote: > > On Mon, 18 Feb 2008 20:24:12 GMT, ehsjr <ehsjr@bellatlantic.net> > wrote: > > >kayvee wrote: > >> I have a 500k ohm POT and I will be using it to vary the voltage of a > >> circuit I am making. It is basically a motor which I want to be able > >> to change the voltage drop across it. I will be connecting it in > >> series with the motor. This POT I have has 3 lead coming off of it. I > >> am under the impression that if I connect the middle lead and one of > >> the outer leads it will vary the current of the circuit, and if I > >> connect all 3 lead in a curtain fashion it will vary the voltage. > >> > >> Now my question is how do I connect the 3 leads? > >> > >> I have tried reading explanations, I would appreciate a straight > >> forward good old fashioned diagram. > >> > >> [POT} > >> | | | > >> ? ? ? > >> > >> *---[DC]----?---------[MOTOR]---* > >> | | > >> | | > >> *-------------------------------* > > > >Connecting a pot directly to a motor is not usually > >advisable. As a general rule, assume that if you do > >it, you will burn out the pot. If the motor draws > >less current than the pot can handle, that's ok, but > >you need to know that up front. > > > >If you use a pot to drive a transistor, you can > >control a lot more current: > > > > V+ ---+----[Motor]----+ > > | | > > P /c > > O<---[220R]---| NPN Power xsistor > > T \e > > | | > > Gnd ---+---------------+ > > > > > >The NPN transistor needs to be able to handle the > >power and current that the motor needs. > > --- > > V+ ---+---------------+ > | | > P /c > O<------------| NPN Power xsistor > T \e > | | > Gnd --+---[Motor]-----+ > > Better, yes?  Unless you turn the wiper all the way to the top terminal and destroy the transistor. A resistor to limits the base current to a safe level should be added between that terminal and V+. (For once I got to make the correction before John caught it)  -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida
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ehsjr
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 Re: How do I hook up my potentiometer?
John Fields wrote: > On Mon, 18 Feb 2008 20:24:12 GMT, ehsjr <ehsjr@bellatlantic.net> > wrote: > > >>kayvee wrote: >> >>>I have a 500k ohm POT and I will be using it to vary the voltage of a >>>circuit I am making. It is basically a motor which I want to be able >>>to change the voltage drop across it. I will be connecting it in >>>series with the motor. This POT I have has 3 lead coming off of it. I >>>am under the impression that if I connect the middle lead and one of >>>the outer leads it will vary the current of the circuit, and if I >>>connect all 3 lead in a curtain fashion it will vary the voltage. >>> >>>Now my question is how do I connect the 3 leads? >>> >>>I have tried reading explanations, I would appreciate a straight >>>forward good old fashioned diagram. >>> >>> [POT} >>> | | | >>> ? ? ? >>> >>> *---[DC]----?---------[MOTOR]---* >>> | | >>> | | >>> *-------------------------------* >> >>Connecting a pot directly to a motor is not usually >>advisable. As a general rule, assume that if you do >>it, you will burn out the pot. If the motor draws >>less current than the pot can handle, that's ok, but >>you need to know that up front. >> >>If you use a pot to drive a transistor, you can >>control a lot more current: >> >> V+ ---+----[Motor]----+ >> | | >> P /c >> O<---[220R]---| NPN Power xsistor >> T \e >> | | >> Gnd ---+---------------+ >> >> >>The NPN transistor needs to be able to handle the >>power and current that the motor needs. > > > --- > > V+ ---+---------------+ > | | > P /c > O<------------| NPN Power xsistor > T \e > | | > Gnd --+---[Motor]-----+ > > Better, yes?  > Yes!  But you've ended my plan to gain world domination by the acquisition of all of the 220 ohm resistor factories.  Ed
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ehsjr
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 Re: How do I hook up my potentiometer?
Michael A. Terrell wrote: > John Fields wrote: > >>On Mon, 18 Feb 2008 20:24:12 GMT, ehsjr <ehsjr@bellatlantic.net> >>wrote: >> >> >>>kayvee wrote: >>> >>>>I have a 500k ohm POT and I will be using it to vary the voltage of a >>>>circuit I am making. It is basically a motor which I want to be able >>>>to change the voltage drop across it. I will be connecting it in >>>>series with the motor. This POT I have has 3 lead coming off of it. I >>>>am under the impression that if I connect the middle lead and one of >>>>the outer leads it will vary the current of the circuit, and if I >>>>connect all 3 lead in a curtain fashion it will vary the voltage. >>>> >>>>Now my question is how do I connect the 3 leads? >>>> >>>>I have tried reading explanations, I would appreciate a straight >>>>forward good old fashioned diagram. >>>> >>>> [POT} >>>> | | | >>>> ? ? ? >>>> >>>> *---[DC]----?---------[MOTOR]---* >>>> | | >>>> | | >>>> *-------------------------------* >>> >>>Connecting a pot directly to a motor is not usually >>>advisable. As a general rule, assume that if you do >>>it, you will burn out the pot. If the motor draws >>>less current than the pot can handle, that's ok, but >>>you need to know that up front. >>> >>>If you use a pot to drive a transistor, you can >>>control a lot more current: >>> >>> V+ ---+----[Motor]----+ >>> | | >>> P /c >>> O<---[220R]---| NPN Power xsistor >>> T \e >>> | | >>> Gnd ---+---------------+ >>> >>> >>>The NPN transistor needs to be able to handle the >>>power and current that the motor needs. >> >>--- >> >>V+ ---+---------------+ >> | | >> P /c >> O<------------| NPN Power xsistor >> T \e >> | | >>Gnd --+---[Motor]-----+ >> >>Better, yes?  > > > > > Unless you turn the wiper all the way to the top terminal and destroy > the transistor. A resistor to limits the base current to a safe level > should be added between that terminal and V+. (For once I got to make > the correction before John caught it)  > > > John has ended my plan for world domination (see my reply to him) with his better plan: R_Motor*(1 + Hfe)  Ed
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John
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 Re: How do I hook up my potentiometer?
On Mon, 18 Feb 2008 23:55:09 -0500, "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote: >John Fields wrote: >> >> On Mon, 18 Feb 2008 20:24:12 GMT, ehsjr <ehsjr@bellatlantic.net> >> wrote: >> >> >kayvee wrote: >> >> I have a 500k ohm POT and I will be using it to vary the voltage of a >> >> circuit I am making. It is basically a motor which I want to be able >> >> to change the voltage drop across it. I will be connecting it in >> >> series with the motor. This POT I have has 3 lead coming off of it. I >> >> am under the impression that if I connect the middle lead and one of >> >> the outer leads it will vary the current of the circuit, and if I >> >> connect all 3 lead in a curtain fashion it will vary the voltage. >> >> >> >> Now my question is how do I connect the 3 leads? >> >> >> >> I have tried reading explanations, I would appreciate a straight >> >> forward good old fashioned diagram. >> >> >> >> [POT} >> >> | | | >> >> ? ? ? >> >> >> >> *---[DC]----?---------[MOTOR]---* >> >> | | >> >> | | >> >> *-------------------------------* >> > >> >Connecting a pot directly to a motor is not usually >> >advisable. As a general rule, assume that if you do >> >it, you will burn out the pot. If the motor draws >> >less current than the pot can handle, that's ok, but >> >you need to know that up front. >> > >> >If you use a pot to drive a transistor, you can >> >control a lot more current: >> > >> > V+ ---+----[Motor]----+ >> > | | >> > P /c >> > O<---[220R]---| NPN Power xsistor >> > T \e >> > | | >> > Gnd ---+---------------+ >> > >> > >> >The NPN transistor needs to be able to handle the >> >power and current that the motor needs. >> >> --- >> >> V+ ---+---------------+ >> | | >> P /c >> O<------------| NPN Power xsistor >> T \e >> | | >> Gnd --+---[Motor]-----+ >> >> Better, yes?  > > > > Unless you turn the wiper all the way to the top terminal and destroy >the transistor. A resistor to limits the base current to a safe level >should be added between that terminal and V+. (For once I got to make >the correction before John caught it)  --- Since the circuit is an emitter follower, the voltage dropped across the motor will cause the emitter voltage to rise as the base voltage is increased, which will limit the base current to whatever's needed to keep the base enough more positive than the emitter to allow more and more current into the motor as the pot is rotated. Still, it's not a bad idea and will allow Ed to maintain his stranglehold on the world's supply of 220 ohm resistors.  Also, this may not be a bad idea: ..V+>---+---------------+ .. | | .. [220] | .. | | .. P /c .. O<------------| NPN Power xsistor .. T \e .. | | .. +---[Motor]-----+ .. | | ..GND>--+---[Diode>]----+ -- JF
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kayvee
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 Re: How do I hook up my potentiometer?
On Feb 22, 6:06 pm, John Fields <jfie...@austininstruments.com> wrote: > On Mon, 18 Feb 2008 23:55:09 -0500, "Michael A. Terrell" > > > > <mike.terr...@earthlink.net> wrote: > >John Fields wrote: > > >> On Mon, 18 Feb 2008 20:24:12 GMT, ehsjr <eh...@bellatlantic.net> > >> wrote: > > >> >kayvee wrote: > >> >> I have a 500k ohm POT and I will be using it to vary the voltage of a > >> >> circuit I am making. It is basically a motor which I want to be able > >> >> to change the voltage drop across it. I will be connecting it in > >> >> series with the motor. This POT I have has 3 lead coming off of it. I > >> >> am under the impression that if I connect the middle lead and one of > >> >> the outer leads it will vary the current of the circuit, and if I > >> >> connect all 3 lead in a curtain fashion it will vary the voltage. > > >> >> Now my question is how do I connect the 3 leads? > > >> >> I have tried reading explanations, I would appreciate a straight > >> >> forward good old fashioned diagram. > > >> >> [POT} > >> >> | | | > >> >> ? ? ? > > >> >> *---[DC]----?---------[MOTOR]---* > >> >> | | > >> >> | | > >> >> *-------------------------------* > > >> >Connecting a pot directly to a motor is not usually > >> >advisable. As a general rule, assume that if you do > >> >it, you will burn out the pot. If the motor draws > >> >less current than the pot can handle, that's ok, but > >> >you need to know that up front. > > >> >If you use a pot to drive a transistor, you can > >> >control a lot more current: > > >> > V+ ---+----[Motor]----+ > >> > | | > >> > P /c > >> > O<---[220R]---| NPN Power xsistor > >> > T \e > >> > | | > >> > Gnd ---+---------------+ > > >> >The NPN transistor needs to be able to handle the > >> >power and current that the motor needs. > > >> --- > > >> V+ ---+---------------+ > >> | | > >> P /c > >> O<------------| NPN Power xsistor > >> T \e > >> | | > >> Gnd --+---[Motor]-----+ > > >> Better, yes?  > > > Unless you turn the wiper all the way to the top terminal and destroy > >the transistor. A resistor to limits the base current to a safe level > >should be added between that terminal and V+. (For once I got to make > >the correction before John caught it)  > > --- > Since the circuit is an emitter follower, the voltage dropped across > the motor will cause the emitter voltage to rise as the base voltage > is increased, which will limit the base current to whatever's needed > to keep the base enough more positive than the emitter to allow more > and more current into the motor as the pot is rotated. > > Still, it's not a bad idea and will allow Ed to maintain his > stranglehold on the world's supply of 220 ohm resistors.  > > Also, this may not be a bad idea: > > .V+>---+---------------+ > . | | > . [220] | > . | | > . P /c > . O<------------| NPN Power xsistor > . T \e > . | | > . +---[Motor]-----+ > . | | > .GND>--+---[Diode>]----+ > > -- > JF Thanks for all the help. But what purpose does the diode serve?
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Michael
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 Re: How do I hook up my potentiometer?
kayvee wrote: > > Thanks for all the help. But what purpose does the diode serve?
The motor has back EMF, and can damage the transistor. The diode is used to shunt it.
-- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85.
Michael A. Terrell Central Florida
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John
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 Re: How do I hook up my potentiometer?
kayvee wrote: > On Feb 22, 6:06 pm, John Fields <jfie...@austininstruments.com> wrote:
>> .V+>---+---------------+ >> . | | >> . [220] | >> . | | >> . P /c >> . O<------------| NPN Power xsistor >> . T \e >> . | | >> . +---[Motor]-----+ >> . | | >> .GND>--+---[Diode>]----+ >> >> -- >> JF > > Thanks for all the help. But what purpose does the diode serve?
It is intended to pass motor current, limiting the voltage the motor's inductance generates, if the pot wiper happens to slide over a bad spot, opening up the base, while the motor is running. With it there, the most negative that inductive current can drive the emitter voltage is one diode drop more negative than the ground rail. If the to could be guaranteed to never go over a speck of dust, etc., you could do without it.
-- Regards,
John Popelish
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Michael
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 Re: How do I hook up my potentiometer?
John Fields wrote: > > On Mon, 18 Feb 2008 23:55:09 -0500, "Michael A. Terrell" > <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote: > > >John Fields wrote: > >> > >> On Mon, 18 Feb 2008 20:24:12 GMT, ehsjr <ehsjr@bellatlantic.net> > >> wrote: > >> > >> >kayvee wrote: > >> >> I have a 500k ohm POT and I will be using it to vary the voltage of a > >> >> circuit I am making. It is basically a motor which I want to be able > >> >> to change the voltage drop across it. I will be connecting it in > >> >> series with the motor. This POT I have has 3 lead coming off of it. I > >> >> am under the impression that if I connect the middle lead and one of > >> >> the outer leads it will vary the current of the circuit, and if I > >> >> connect all 3 lead in a curtain fashion it will vary the voltage. > >> >> > >> >> Now my question is how do I connect the 3 leads? > >> >> > >> >> I have tried reading explanations, I would appreciate a straight > >> >> forward good old fashioned diagram. > >> >> > >> >> [POT} > >> >> | | | > >> >> ? ? ? > >> >> > >> >> *---[DC]----?---------[MOTOR]---* > >> >> | | > >> >> | | > >> >> *-------------------------------* > >> > > >> >Connecting a pot directly to a motor is not usually > >> >advisable. As a general rule, assume that if you do > >> >it, you will burn out the pot. If the motor draws > >> >less current than the pot can handle, that's ok, but > >> >you need to know that up front. > >> > > >> >If you use a pot to drive a transistor, you can > >> >control a lot more current: > >> > > >> > V+ ---+----[Motor]----+ > >> > | | > >> > P /c > >> > O<---[220R]---| NPN Power xsistor > >> > T \e > >> > | | > >> > Gnd ---+---------------+ > >> > > >> > > >> >The NPN transistor needs to be able to handle the > >> >power and current that the motor needs. > >> > >> --- > >> > >> V+ ---+---------------+ > >> | | > >> P /c > >> O<------------| NPN Power xsistor > >> T \e > >> | | > >> Gnd --+---[Motor]-----+ > >> > >> Better, yes?  > > > > > > > > Unless you turn the wiper all the way to the top terminal and destroy > >the transistor. A resistor to limits the base current to a safe level > >should be added between that terminal and V+. (For once I got to make > >the correction before John caught it)  > > --- > Since the circuit is an emitter follower, the voltage dropped across > the motor will cause the emitter voltage to rise as the base voltage > is increased, which will limit the base current to whatever's needed > to keep the base enough more positive than the emitter to allow more > and more current into the motor as the pot is rotated. > > Still, it's not a bad idea and will allow Ed to maintain his > stranglehold on the world's supply of 220 ohm resistors.  he better get busy. It lookks like I have over 10,000 on hand. http://home.earthlink.net/~mike.terrell/Epres.html> Also, this may not be a bad idea: > > .V+>---+---------------+ > . | | > . [220] | > . | | > . P /c > . O<------------| NPN Power xsistor > . T \e > . | | > . +---[Motor]-----+ > . | | > .GND>--+---[Diode>]----+ > > -- > JF -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida
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ehsjr
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 Re: How do I hook up my potentiometer?
Michael A. Terrell wrote: > John Fields wrote: > >>On Mon, 18 Feb 2008 23:55:09 -0500, "Michael A. Terrell" >><mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote: >> >> >>>John Fields wrote: >>> >>>>On Mon, 18 Feb 2008 20:24:12 GMT, ehsjr <ehsjr@bellatlantic.net> >>>>wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>>kayvee wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>I have a 500k ohm POT and I will be using it to vary the voltage of a >>>>>>circuit I am making. It is basically a motor which I want to be able >>>>>>to change the voltage drop across it. I will be connecting it in >>>>>>series with the motor. This POT I have has 3 lead coming off of it. I >>>>>>am under the impression that if I connect the middle lead and one of >>>>>>the outer leads it will vary the current of the circuit, and if I >>>>>>connect all 3 lead in a curtain fashion it will vary the voltage. >>>>>> >>>>>>Now my question is how do I connect the 3 leads? >>>>>> >>>>>>I have tried reading explanations, I would appreciate a straight >>>>>>forward good old fashioned diagram. >>>>>> >>>>>> [POT} >>>>>> | | | >>>>>> ? ? ? >>>>>> >>>>>> *---[DC]----?---------[MOTOR]---* >>>>>> | | >>>>>> | | >>>>>> *-------------------------------* >>>>> >>>>>Connecting a pot directly to a motor is not usually >>>>>advisable. As a general rule, assume that if you do >>>>>it, you will burn out the pot. If the motor draws >>>>>less current than the pot can handle, that's ok, but >>>>>you need to know that up front. >>>>> >>>>>If you use a pot to drive a transistor, you can >>>>>control a lot more current: >>>>> >>>>> V+ ---+----[Motor]----+ >>>>> | | >>>>> P /c >>>>> O<---[220R]---| NPN Power xsistor >>>>> T \e >>>>> | | >>>>> Gnd ---+---------------+ >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>The NPN transistor needs to be able to handle the >>>>>power and current that the motor needs. >>>> >>>>--- >>>> >>>>V+ ---+---------------+ >>>> | | >>>> P /c >>>> O<------------| NPN Power xsistor >>>> T \e >>>> | | >>>>Gnd --+---[Motor]-----+ >>>> >>>>Better, yes?  >>> >>> >>> >>> Unless you turn the wiper all the way to the top terminal and destroy >>>the transistor. A resistor to limits the base current to a safe level >>>should be added between that terminal and V+. (For once I got to make >>>the correction before John caught it)  >> >>--- >>Since the circuit is an emitter follower, the voltage dropped across >>the motor will cause the emitter voltage to rise as the base voltage >>is increased, which will limit the base current to whatever's needed >>to keep the base enough more positive than the emitter to allow more >>and more current into the motor as the pot is rotated. >> >>Still, it's not a bad idea and will allow Ed to maintain his >>stranglehold on the world's supply of 220 ohm resistors.  > > > > he better get busy. It lookks like I have over 10,000 on hand. > > http://home.earthlink.net/~mike.terrell/Epres.html> > > Curses ... foiled again!  Ed > >>Also, this may not be a bad idea: >> >>.V+>---+---------------+ >>. | | >>. [220] | >>. | | >>. P /c >>. O<------------| NPN Power xsistor >>. T \e >>. | | >>. +---[Motor]-----+ >>. | | >>.GND>--+---[Diode>]----+ >> >>-- >>JF > > >
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Michael
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 Re: How do I hook up my potentiometer?
ehsjr wrote: > > Michael A. Terrell wrote: > > John Fields wrote: > > > >>Still, it's not a bad idea and will allow Ed to maintain his > >>stranglehold on the world's supply of 220 ohm resistors.  > > > > He better get busy. It lookks like I have over 10,000 on hand. > > > > http://home.earthlink.net/~mike.terrell/Epres.html> > Curses ... foiled again!  Do you want a really good deal on them?  -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida
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ehsjr
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 Re: How do I hook up my potentiometer?
Michael A. Terrell wrote: > ehsjr wrote: > >>Michael A. Terrell wrote: >> >>>John Fields wrote: >>> >>> >>>>Still, it's not a bad idea and will allow Ed to maintain his >>>>stranglehold on the world's supply of 220 ohm resistors.  >>> >>> He better get busy. It lookks like I have over 10,000 on hand. >>> >>>http://home.earthlink.net/~mike.terrell/Epres.html >> >>Curses ... foiled again!  > > > > Do you want a really good deal on them?  > > Thanks, but I expect we share a problem: inventory > space That's why my plan was to acquire factories.  Ed
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Michael
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 Re: How do I hook up my potentiometer?
ehsjr wrote: > > Michael A. Terrell wrote: > > ehsjr wrote: > > > >>Michael A. Terrell wrote: > >> > >>>John Fields wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>>>Still, it's not a bad idea and will allow Ed to maintain his > >>>>stranglehold on the world's supply of 220 ohm resistors.  > >>> > >>> He better get busy. It lookks like I have over 10,000 on hand. > >>> > >>>http://home.earthlink.net/~mike.terrell/Epres.html > >> > >>Curses ... foiled again!  > > > > > > > > Do you want a really good deal on them?  > > > > > > Thanks, but I expect we share a problem: > inventory > space > That's why my plan was to acquire factories.  You haven't heard my offer, yet!  -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida
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ehsjr
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 Re: How do I hook up my potentiometer?
Michael A. Terrell wrote: > ehsjr wrote: > >>Michael A. Terrell wrote: >> >>>ehsjr wrote: >>> >>> >>>>Michael A. Terrell wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>>John Fields wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>Still, it's not a bad idea and will allow Ed to maintain his >>>>>>stranglehold on the world's supply of 220 ohm resistors.  >>>>> >>>>> He better get busy. It lookks like I have over 10,000 on hand. >>>>> >>>>>http://home.earthlink.net/~mike.terrell/Epres.html >>>> >>>>Curses ... foiled again!  >>> >>> >>> >>> Do you want a really good deal on them?  >>> >>> >> >>Thanks, but I expect we share a problem: >> inventory > space >>That's why my plan was to acquire factories.  > > > > You haven't heard my offer, yet!  > You haven't seen my "available" space yet!  Maybe you could make a resistor sculpture of a horse, a la Ocala Horse Fever? I still enjoy those pictures you pointed out. Ed
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Michael
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 Re: How do I hook up my potentiometer?
ehsjr wrote: > > Michael A. Terrell wrote: > > > > You haven't heard my offer, yet!  > > > > You haven't seen my "available" space yet!  I'll put up my lack of free space against yours, any day.  I had to put five printers in the garden shed today, so it wouldn't rain on them while I was gone. I have stopped refurbishing computers for a while to attack the problem from the other end. I'm doing triage, and separating the rebuildable from the hopeless. I put the hopeless units in the dimbulb pile so they can be ripped apart for salvage. I can only give away so many win 95 computers to preschoolers.  The ones that work, or almost work will soon be in use at their new home in a daycare center. > Maybe you could make a resistor sculpture of a > horse, a la Ocala Horse Fever? I still enjoy > those pictures you pointed out. WHAT???????????????? Use up my good 63/37 solder to build model horses? NEVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! They will have to pry my lead based solder out of my cold, dead hands!  BTW, I think they may do another batch of those horses. If they do, I'll try top remember to post a link. the Ocala Star banner did a recent series called Barchitecture. where the whole series was built around dogs. I can't find it online right now, but I'll see if I can locate a working link. It was published as a section of the newspaper. -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida
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