The following circuit was designed for me by John...

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So, your final circuit comes out looking like this:


+5>---+-------------+
| |
[68k] [LDR] +---[1M]--+
| | | |
| +----+---|+\ |
| | | >--+---->OUT
[100K]<--[10K]---|--------|-/ |
| | LM324 [1.5k]
| [3.9k] |A
| | [HLMP4700]
| | |
GND>--+-------------+--------------+---->GND


I've added a little hysteresis to keep the output from chattering as
the + input goes through the trigger point, and also used a
high-efficiency LED to allow more output current from the opamp into
whatever OUT is feeding.

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I now need to invert the output - is this something I can do with the
existing components, or will I have to add an addtional invertor to
the output?

Any help greatly appreciated.

Dave

kasterborus@yahoo.com writes:
> I now need to invert the output

Can't you just swap the + and - inputs?

On Fri, 17 Aug 2007 15:38:12 -0000, kasterborus@yahoo.com wrote:

>The following circuit was designed for me by John...
>
>--------------------------------------------------
>
>So, your final circuit comes out looking like this:
>
>
>+5>---+-------------+
> | |
> [68k] [LDR] +---[1M]--+
> | | | |
> | +----+---|+\ |
> | | | >--+---->OUT
> [100K]<--[10K]---|--------|-/ |
> | | LM324 [1.5k]
> | [3.9k] |A
> | | [HLMP4700]
> | | |
>GND>--+-------------+--------------+---->GND
>
>
>I've added a little hysteresis to keep the output from chattering as
>the + input goes through the trigger point, and also used a
>high-efficiency LED to allow more output current from the opamp into
>whatever OUT is feeding.
>
>-------------------------------------------
>
>I now need to invert the output - is this something I can do with the
>existing components, or will I have to add an addtional invertor to
>the output?

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This may work:

.. +5>---+-------------+
.. | |
.. [68k] [3k9] +---[1M]--+
.. | | | |
.. | +----+---|+\ |
.. | | | >--+---->OUT
.. [100K]<--[10K]---|--------|-/ |
.. | | LM324 [1.5k]
.. | [LDR] |A
.. | | [HLMP4700]
.. | | |
..GND>---+-------------+--------------+---->GND

But just to be sure, what was the original application?


--
JF

On 17 Aug 2007 13:52:45 -0400, DJ Delorie <dj@delorie.com> wrote:

>
>kasterborus@yahoo.com writes:
>> I now need to invert the output
>
>Can't you just swap the + and - inputs?

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Not really, since then the hysteresis would be negative feedback
instead of positive.


--
JF

On Fri, 17 Aug 2007 17:34:52 -0500, John Fields wrote:
> On 17 Aug 2007 13:52:45 -0400, DJ Delorie <dj@delorie.com> wrote:
>>kasterborus@yahoo.com writes:
>>> I now need to invert the output
>>
>>Can't you just swap the + and - inputs?
>
> Not really, since then the hysteresis would be negative feedback
> instead of positive.

How about if you just swap them before the hysteresis feedback?:

+5>---+-------------+
| |
[68k] [LDR] +---[1M]--+
| | | |
[100K]<--[10K]---|----+---|+\ |
| | | >--+---->OUT
| +--------|-/ |
| | LM324 [1.5k]
| [3.9k] |A
| | [HLMP4700]
| | |
GND>--+-------------+--------------+---->GND


Or, you could have turned the 324 upside down, as long as the 1M
goes with it.

Or am I missing something?

Thanks,
Rich

Thanks for the responses!

The original application was a musical instrument triggered by
interrupting laser beams.
I'll give these designs a try.

I've also been given a couple of GP2D120 reflection sensors - I know
that the output of these is in the range of 0.4-2.45v. Can I adapt the
above components to work with these instead?

Thanks in advance - I wish I knew how to do this stuff myself.