Does anyone know WHICH standard USB connector is now required by law in
China?

http://www.eetimes.com/rss/showArticle. ... es_newsRSS

Is it the mini-usb or the micro-usb?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:USB_types.jpg

While the mini-usb has been around since the USB 2.0 spec, the micro-USB is
new in late 2006.
http://www.informationweek.com/news/sho ... =196801196

Does anyone know when the USA will enact this sensible law for all portable
electronics?

Thanks in advance,
Sharon

Here is a photo of the new in 2006 micro-USB connector:

http://www.intomobile.com/2007/05/16/fi ... -port.html

This means both USB and mini-USB will go away in favor of micro-USB in all
portable electronics. That's a good thing. There is nothing bad and
everything good from that transition.

I never buy any portable electronics device that doesn't run off of USB and
neither should you if you care about waste.

Sharon

Sharon Ciccio wrote:
>
> Here is a photo of the new in 2006 micro-USB connector:
>
> http://www.intomobile.com/2007/05/16/fi ... -port.html
>
> This means both USB and mini-USB will go away in favor of micro-USB in all
> portable electronics. That's a good thing. There is nothing bad and
> everything good from that transition.
>
> I never buy any portable electronics device that doesn't run off of USB and
> neither should you if you care about waste.
>
> Sharon


So, you don't want anyone to buy any equipment that requires more than
2.5 watts? Nice try.


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Sharon Ciccio wrote:
>
> Does anyone know WHICH standard USB connector is now required by law in
> China?
>
> http://www.eetimes.com/rss/showArticle. ... es_newsRSS
>
> Is it the mini-usb or the micro-usb?
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:USB_types.jpg
>
> While the mini-usb has been around since the USB 2.0 spec, the micro-USB is
> new in late 2006.
> http://www.informationweek.com/news/sho ... =196801196
>
> Does anyone know when the USA will enact this sensible law for all portable
> electronics?
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Sharon


Too lazy to find the right cable? Plug one of each into a powered USB
hub, and use whatever fits.


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Sharon Ciccio wrote:

> Does anyone know WHICH standard USB connector is now required by law in
> China?
>
> http://www.eetimes.com/rss/showArticle. ... es_newsRSS

" The goal is to reduce the number of chargers that are thrown away each year because of cell
phone upgrades. Nearly 100 million cell phones are replaced every year in China, according to
MII. "

WOW !

A sensible idea. Presumably that means all phones will have a 'universal' power input. What a
brilliant idea.

Graham

On Aug 17, 4:40 pm, Sharon Ciccio <sharonchic...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Does anyone know WHICH standard USB connector is now required by law in
> China?
>
> http://www.eetimes.com/rss/showArticle. ... 238&cid=...
>
> Is it the mini-usb or the micro-usb?
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:USB_types.jpg
>
> While the mini-usb has been around since the USB 2.0 spec, the micro-USB is
> new in late 2006.
> http://www.informationweek.com/news/sho ... ID=19680...
>
> Does anyone know when the USA will enact this sensible law for all portable
> electronics?
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Sharon
There are more and more STANDARD mini-USB connectors now than ever
before.
Different manufacturers are using different standard, whether you like
it or not.
There is no such thing as a STANDARD, as you think it, or any
manufacturer is required to use.

On Aug 17, 4:40 pm, Sharon Ciccio <sharonchic...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Does anyone know WHICH standard USB connector is now required by law in
> China?
>
> http://www.eetimes.com/rss/showArticle. ... 238&cid=...
>
> Is it the mini-usb or the micro-usb?
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:USB_types.jpg
>
> While the mini-usb has been around since the USB 2.0 spec, the micro-USB is
> new in late 2006.
> http://www.informationweek.com/news/sho ... ID=19680...
>
> Does anyone know when the USA will enact this sensible law for all portable
> electronics?
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Sharon

I remmeber you were probably the one who was asking devices using a
standard mini-USB charger some months ago.
And you did not get anywhere?
So you know the answer.

On Fri, 17 Aug 2007 08:40:06 GMT, Sharon Ciccio
<sharonchiccio@hotmail.com> wrote:

>Does anyone know when the USA will enact this sensible law for all portable
>electronics?


Politicians have no business legislating the implementation of
technology. Not that that's ever stopped them before, of course.


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On Fri, 17 Aug 2007 08:40:06 GMT, Sharon Ciccio
<sharonchiccio@hotmail.com> wrote:


>Does anyone know when the USA will enact this sensible law for all portable
>electronics?
>
>Thanks in advance,
>Sharon

When have you ever seen the USA move efficiently/effectively to
establish "standards"?

I recall being told in the early fifties that the USA would be fully
converted to the metric system within 10 years.....................

Standards in electronics, among other things, are non-existent here.

On Sat, 18 Aug 2007 01:53:09 +0300, Sharon Ciccio
<sharonchiccio@hotmail.com> wrote:

>Here is a photo of the new in 2006 micro-USB connector:
>
>http://www.intomobile.com/2007/05/16/first-image-of-the-new-micro-usb-port.html
>
>This means both USB and mini-USB will go away in favor of micro-USB in all
>portable electronics. That's a good thing. There is nothing bad and
>everything good from that transition.
>
>I never buy any portable electronics device that doesn't run off of USB and
>neither should you if you care about waste.
>
>Sharon

Phfffffffffffffffffffft!
Self-righteous twit!

On Aug 17, 5:53 pm, Sharon Ciccio <sharonchic...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Here is a photo of the new in 2006 micro-USB connector:
>
> http://www.intomobile.com/2007/05/16/fi ... icro-usb...
>
> This means both USB and mini-USB will go away in favor of micro-USB in all
> portable electronics. That's a good thing. There is nothing bad and
> everything good from that transition.
>
> I never buy any portable electronics device that doesn't run off of USB and
> neither should you if you care about waste.
>
> Sharon

I think there IS something bad about the small connectors. There is a
lot of mechanical strain on those small connectors and they are much
more likely to suffer from mechanical failure. For equipment that one
wants to use for many years, I prefer better, larger connectors, even
ones with a mechanical "latch", like some of the old serial ports like
the DB9.

On Aug 17, 8:10 am, Chuck Taylor <chuck.tay...@spamtrap.org> wrote:
> On Fri, 17 Aug 2007 08:40:06 GMT, Sharon Ciccio
>
> <sharonchic...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >Does anyone know when the USA will enact this sensible law for all portable
> >electronics?
>
> Politicians have no business legislating the implementation of
> technology. Not that that's ever stopped them before, of course.
>
> --
> Chuck Taylorhttp://home.hiwaay.net/~taylorc/contact/

I agree, unless the standard has first been called for (isn't that
what "standard" really means?) by a standards committee of a trade or
engineering society. But I also agree that those committees are a
better solution than government legislation. Many of them work quite
well (SAE, DIN, ISO, EIAA).

On Aug 17, 8:20 am, Pegleg <Peg...@usnavyret.mil> wrote:
> On Fri, 17 Aug 2007 08:40:06 GMT, Sharon Ciccio
>
> <sharonchic...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >Does anyone know when the USA will enact this sensible law for all portable
> >electronics?
>
> >Thanks in advance,
> >Sharon
>
> When have you ever seen the USA move efficiently/effectively to
> establish "standards"?
>
> I recall being told in the early fifties that the USA would be fully
> converted to the metric system within 10 years.....................
>
> Standards in electronics, among other things, are non-existent here.

Not true. There are MANY electronic standards in the US, and they
work very well. Look at all the RS specs, the EIAA specs, etc.
Interfaces, both electrical and physical, have lots of specs. In
virtually every case, I have bought connectors from various companies
and they mate fine with their counterparts, plugs to jacks, etc. US
manufacturers do manufacture to international specs such as DIN and
CAN.

"Chuck Taylor" <chuck.taylor@spamtrap.org> wrote in message
news:o97bc3pjenvdnrb892t074kugmicit0n9i@4ax.com...
> Politicians have no business legislating the implementation of
> technology. Not that that's ever stopped them before, of course.

I suspect most people would agree that, e.g., the government legislating that
all outlets in the U.S. have the same form factor and provide the same type of
electricity (120V AC, 60Hz) is a good thing. There was a time when this
wasn't the case, and multiple line power standards were in use! (Same with
phone systems -- there was a time when a company in a big city needed to have
3 or 4 different phones just to make sure all their customers on different
companies' loops could contact them...)

So I can sort of see where the Chinese government is coming from, although
they might be overdoing things a little. If you only look at cell phones, the
vast majority are already 5V DC input at 500mA or less, and I suspect that
converting the rest over to the same standard wouldn't add significant cost.
They're used in such quantities that they're an obvious choice for
standadization, but economic forces tend to do that anyway.

"Sharon Ciccio" <sharonchiccio@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:Pldxi.1901$4w7.493@newssvr22.news.prodigy.net...
> Here is a photo of the new in 2006 micro-USB connector:

It really doesn't look that much smaller than the mini-USB connector; I'm
surprised they bothered.

> I never buy any portable electronics device that doesn't run off of USB and
> neither should you if you care about waste.

I care about waste, but I care about functionality too. Power connector alone
isn't the only factor in buying decisions...

On Fri, 17 Aug 2007 10:00:12 -0700, "Joel Kolstad"
<JKolstad71HatesSpam@yahoo.com> wrote:

>"Chuck Taylor" <chuck.taylor@spamtrap.org> wrote in message
>news:o97bc3pjenvdnrb892t074kugmicit0n9i@4ax.com...
>> Politicians have no business legislating the implementation of
>> technology. Not that that's ever stopped them before, of course.
>
>I suspect most people would agree that, e.g., the government legislating that
>all outlets in the U.S. have the same form factor and provide the same type of
>electricity (120V AC, 60Hz) is a good thing. There was a time when this
>wasn't the case, and multiple line power standards were in use!


You mean like way back in 2007?


>...economic forces tend to do that anyway.


There ya go!


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Pegleg wrote:
> On Fri, 17 Aug 2007 08:40:06 GMT, Sharon Ciccio
> <sharonchiccio@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>> Does anyone know when the USA will enact this sensible law for all portable
>> electronics?
>>
>> Thanks in advance,
>> Sharon
>
> When have you ever seen the USA move efficiently/effectively to
> establish "standards"?
>
> I recall being told in the early fifties that the USA would be fully
> converted to the metric system within 10 years.....................
>
> Standards in electronics, among other things, are non-existent here.

yes, they meant 2060

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Joel Kolstad wrote:
> "Sharon Ciccio" <sharonchiccio@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:Pldxi.1901$4w7.493@newssvr22.news.prodigy.net...
>> Here is a photo of the new in 2006 micro-USB connector:
>
> It really doesn't look that much smaller than the mini-USB connector; I'm
> surprised they bothered.

I think they bothered, just to get a new name, I believe. The mini-USB
connector is very confusing name since they have two connectors with the
same name. These days you have to say mini-USB 4 pin or mini-USB 5 pin
to get the right connector. Hopefully the micro-USB will not splinter
off. The mico-USB is also supposed to be more rugged and includes a
friction lock to hold it in better.

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Pegleg wrote:
> On Fri, 17 Aug 2007 08:40:06 GMT, Sharon Ciccio
> <sharonchiccio@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>> Does anyone know when the USA will enact this sensible law for all portable
>> electronics?
>>
>> Thanks in advance,
>> Sharon
>
> When have you ever seen the USA move efficiently/effectively to
> establish "standards"?
>
> I recall being told in the early fifties that the USA would be fully
> converted to the metric system within 10 years.....................
>
> Standards in electronics, among other things, are non-existent here.

60Hz ring any bells? 88.7-107.7 in increments of 0.2? NTSC maybe?

How about RJ-11, power outlets, light bulb sockets?